| Archive for Cydonia RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! |
| Ju-Ju! |
Dan Brown's - The Da Vinci CodeWe all know that Dan Brown has made some tremendously well selling books however having read many of these books you can find numerous mistakes... The Opeus Dei 'monk' (opeus dei do not have monks). Silas the monk? Hmmm... you'd think that his source which he claims to be an Opeus Dei ex-Numery (a numery is a member at its highest stage) would give him better information than 'monks' exsisting in Opeus Dei?The Gnostic Gospels (written by Gnositcs) apparently 'willy nilly' removed by Emporer Constantine when in fact the Gnostics themselves were people who were against anything that was made of matter. Being against matter they believed that the only way to salvation was to part with their matter made body and leave to heaven spiritually. They were also sexsist people treating women as an inferior race. So when Dan Brown claims that part of the Gnostic Gospels says that Mary of Magdalene was in fact Christs wife, it makes you think whether or not he is really looking into his evidence well enough. (i'll write more but i'll let some more people debate first eh?) There are LOTS more mistakes but i shall leave this as a damn well good start to a debate.. unless no one here has read the book and doesn't give a cow's turd about the Illumanti, New World Order, Free masons, Knights of the Templar or Opeus Dei (all things that come under Dan's Brown's Beliefs and his books. |
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| Admin |
Re: Dan Brown's - The Da Vinci Code
There is quite a lot of archaic folklore, particularly from France, concerning Jesus' relationship with Mary. Apart from the legends, there's been a cult of so-called 'Black Madonnas' over there for centuries... Readers of the Da Vinci Code who'd like to learn more about this subject might want to purchase The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail by Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, a far better book (in my view). |
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| Ju-Ju! |
i agree as well. Brown's book is rather flakey. | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
*bumpage* :lol: :lol: | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
Dan Brown's Da Vinci is to be taken with a pinch of salt, but yes, it certainly is true that one of the church's main jobs has been to suppress woman-kind, regardless of whether or not some sandal wearing hippy got married in da desert. | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
easy on the tone lol.. can be taken to offence you see... well that statement isn't exactly true. If the church wanted to do that then why did they portray The Virgin Mary in such a high status? She was known to be sacred and blessed among all women. Also, the church haven't been 'supressing' anything from their followers to woman-kind. The catholic are all for the equality bogus... There have been many good cover ups in the faith but none involving the supression of women. |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Oh right, cus this place is swarming with Christians. ;-)
You've never heard of Original sin? The Maleus Maleficarum? People say a lot of things, dont mean they mean them. |
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| Ju-Ju! |
lol yes the original sin..
That's basically the early bible teachings.. Genesis i do believe. This doesn't necessarily mean that it was true. Noah's Ark, Creation Story, Garden of Eden.. all aboriginal stories to help answer hard questions. It wasn't until after Abraham that real events began to take place that were infact historically correct. oh and btw.. i am catholic  :lol: :lol:
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| Ichabod Crane |
Oh, I see. Well, if I may say so, it's funny that you consider yourself Catholic, yet you deny the reality of GOD'S WORD! ;-) You dont think women have been repressed throughout the ages then, due to religion? |
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| Ju-Ju! |
of course they have but that was reading the words of the bible wrongly. There are ways to interpret things and with the education back then people didn't consider the things we consider now.
Given a few decades we'll probably (as a world) end up looking back saying.. god stupid war people things... that catholic faith encouraged a war in defence... bla bla bla i think you get my drift. I'm a catholic but no one said that i wasn't liberal.. i'm a STRONG catholic but.. i have a very different way of thinking to your traditional catholic.. I'm a LOT more open minded in trying to make science and religion coincide beautifully 
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| Ichabod Crane |
What parts of The Faith do you retain, in order to call yourself Catholic? |
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| Ju-Ju! |
the liturgical worship The general guidelines and morals.
Everything apart from the beginning of the bible. Even the catholic church now (with a faith movement) believe that the beginning of the bible was mostly interpretation. There were no historical evidence to back this up so you can't blindly say its all true can ya? I believe in everything apart from the oldest books Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deutoronomy :-) |
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| Ichabod Crane |
So, you believe on the Book of Revelations? COOL! |
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| Ju-Ju! |
ahh yes the favouriteness of my beliefs lol
i love revelations... the dawning of a new world.. the ram and the monster looking creatures with 7 heads and 7 horns...Why 7? I mean 7 seems to be the magic number... 7 candle stands 7 stars 7 churches... |
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| Ichabod Crane |
7/7 London bombings... |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Seriously though,do you actually believe in Judgment Day and all that? No matter if you do, I'm just curious. | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
i do indeed but differently.
catholics believe that when you die you go to limbo and decides whether you goto heaven or hell well i reckon we're in limbo right now. and the heaven and hell is based on your life on earth. Judgement day is again used metaphorically... it is a time where everything is leading up to.. something that has been planned since the birth of the world. Brace yourselves... |
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| Ichabod Crane |
When's it gonna' hit? Do I have time to book another holiday? | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
2012? Hehe. | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
lol we don't know. The bible code hasn't opened any answers as of yet.... | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
Why Christianity? Why not Hinduism? :twisted:
:twisted: Oh, and Julz, you might want to go and download a film called The Prophecy. It's a great religious horror film |
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| Ju-Ju! |
*backs away from thread* there were WAY too many :twisted: 's in there.. 
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| Ichabod Crane |
:twisted: | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
:smt115 ali........ :smt115 | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
Fear not, for Bruce Campbell is here!
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| Ju-Ju! |
:smt104 | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
Gimme' some sugar? Hail to The King? Evil Dead? |
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| TreeHeart |
a religious horror film with Bruce campbell This I have to see! | ||||||
| Ju-Ju! |
erm.. i have no idea what you mean by that lol | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTvN-NrRfM | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
No, sorry, but it's a great fim. |
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| Ju-Ju! |
fo shizzle? hmmm sounds interesting. probably not my cup of coffee.. | ||||||
| hystericali |
can this thread be calmed down please?
Ichabod, please respect that there are people on here that have different beliefs to yours, and I don't want any links posting to films that may upset people on the forum, ok? |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Well, I do respect Julz's beliefs. Mabe you could show me where I was flaming? As to the film, well, I did'nt know there was a content restriction to the site on that manner. |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Mabe you're not respecting my dibeliefe of Christianity and my right ot dissagree? 8) |
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| Ju-Ju! |
alright mister nuff of the smart talk
Back on topic or m'afraid the thread will be closed.. we drifted a bit.. ok. well what were we saying about 7? |
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| hystericali |
as long as you respect the right that everyone has to their own beliefs then I'm cool
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| Ichabod Crane |
Stuff that would get the thread closed. Allright, I'll wish you good night, and good luck. |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Did I ever come out against freedom of expression? 
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| Ju-Ju! |
goodnight m'dear. Sleep well.. and all that jazz (read my advice in the off topic) | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
MORNING! did I tell you I'm addicted to forums? | ||||||
| Ichabod Crane |
Out of interest, did I actually offend you Julz?
Actually, at the risk of getting this thread locked, I find it ironic that a bit of playfull church bashing could get peoples backs up so, considering this is a Muse forum. But I honestly do not mean any harm. After all, you've seen the album cover of BHAR, right? The four horesmen of the apocalypse? The four great plagues?: 
You cant blame me for just bieng a Muse fan, on a Muse forum. |
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| Helen |
*steps in with large whip*
Isnt this thread supposed to be about the Davinci Code? |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Yes, but is The Davinci Code not about the crimes commited by organised religion? Not that I'm ''flaming'' anyone here, I'm just stating a fact. |
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| Helen |
Yes but it was just the the thread was getting a bit kinda heavy. 
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| Ichabod Crane |
Yeah maaaan, dont be, like, so negative maaan. :twisted: |
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| hystericali |
Yes, of course this is a Muse forum, but I'd be pretty damn confident in saying the people on here are fans of the MUSIC, is any one a Muse fan because of Matt Bellamy's interest in conspiracy theories? ''Yeah maaaan, dont be, like, so negative maaan. '' and for someone so keen on the right to freedom of expression, I find what you said to Helen a bit opinionated, even if it was said in jest/sarcasm/humour/all seriousness etc, you expect the right to freedom of expression, but when someone puts their point across you tell them (maybe in jest/sarcasm/humour/all seriousness, I have no idea what the tone of your post is in) not to be so negative. . |
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| Ichabod Crane |
It was just sarcasm, silly billy. I was not the one talking of locking threads and refraining from expresing certain sentiments about certain religions. Well, you replied, so I take it you wanted my opinion, right? hehe |
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| Ichabod Crane |
Whats wrong with bieng ''opinionated'' anyway?
I mean, what is the point of having a forum open to the whole world if only a small minority of opinions are allowed to be expressed? |
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| Museclues |
julz i think you and i are the only catholics here i cydonia! |
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