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Museclues

Religion

What religion are you?Not to be nosy...just kinds curious...

oh and if you something else, post it cause these are just the stuff off the top of my head...

i am Catholic...
wildflower

i was christened catholic, but im actually agnostic, i dont go with all the fire and brimstone, and the hypocrisy of catholicism so for me the jury is out
Northern-Star

I clicked on Atheist, it's not a religion though.(I know you had to put it there as an option)

I was baptized into the Roman Catholic church though, if you are interested.
wildflower

sounds similar to me karen, i dont do religion although i have to say if i do something naughty or bad, i always think "gods gonna get me for that" lol, make of that what you will
Museclues

this is a good topic... discuss discuss!
hystericali

atheist, pure and simple.

I don't see how something 'invisible' can rule so many people's lives.

You make your own destiny, you get out of life exactly what you put into it. You put nothing into your life, then don't whinge when it goes a bit pear shaped. That's laziness, not some God handing me a bum deal.  Its up to me how I live my life, not some unproven source.

Sorry if my views offend.

I'm a bit blunt, I know, I'm not subtle  

I come in peace you know  

I sound like a horrible old cow now  

each to their own though. If there are people here who are religious then I do admire their ability to believe in something and celebrate in it.
Museclues

hystericali wrote:
atheist, pure and simple.

I don't see how something 'invisible' can rule so many people's lives.

You make your own destiny, you get out of life exactly what you put into it. You put nothing into your life, then don't whinge when it goes a bit pear shaped. That's laziness, not some God handing me a bum deal.  Its up to me how I live my life, not some unproven source.

Sorry if my views offend.

I'm a bit blunt, I know, I'm not subtle  

I come in peace you know  

I sound like a horrible old cow now  

each to their own though. If there are people here who are religious then I do admire their ability to believe in something and celebrate in it.


lol ali "a horrible old cow" hey, thats how you feel adnd i respect that. i dig that spider lol
tasheh

I'm sorry but it really gets on my nerves when people note Agnosticism to be the same as Athiesm. Agnostics borrow from Athiests as they do from Religions. You don't have to believe in God but that doesn't mean the concept doesn't interest you. But you'll generally find Agnostics have a much more different concept on religion as Atheists do. We're basically fence sitters with an opinion  
Museclues

good point tash..

i really agree with tasheh on this one...one of my best friends from school....well she is agnostic she claims, because she doesnt know what to believe and stuff. and i go to a catholic school[but we're not forcing her to convert and stuff] she has a sense of wanting to be catholic but still like..."what should go with?"

in my true OPINION.. [dont get me wrong or get mad a me plz i luv u all!]

like the true term of agnostic is TOATALLY  DIFFERENT from athiesism...and you sit back and watch other religions. or you just dont know, and kind of like, "is there one big dude up the sky or s it the stars?!?!look a  meteorr!" i THINK athiest is the denial of God or something...*rushes to wikipedia*

hi five tash
Northern-Star

That's why I hate terms like atheist and that. Sure that is a kind of catch all term for not believing in any god, but it's a bit general too, just like agnostic is.

I don't believe there are any supernatural goings on in the world at all, ghosts, souls etc. I don't believe there is a super being who created us or the earth or the other planets and stars.
I don't believe dinosaurs co-existed with humans either or the earth was only created a few hundred thousand years ago.

I DO believe that humans have evolved from ape like creatures and that other species have evolved too, not that they just popped into existence!

I agree with what Ali said, that we lead our own lives and cause our own futures to happen.
One thing that bugs me is that when people get sick and the doctors can't help they blame the doctors or medicine and god too eventually, but when the person is saved from death, they thank god oh what a miracle! God did it, well no that was medicine and science.

We live, we die and in the middle part you just have to do your best to be nice and good and maybe make a difference to those around you and hope that when you are gone you will be missed.
Sorry if that is a little    but that's my opinions  

I love you all, religion may bug me, but I don't hold anything against someone who follows a certain path different to my own(as I hope no one would hold anything against me for my opinions).
As long as you are a nice person of course, which I think we all are on this forum
Museclues

*coughs* NO HARSH FEELINGS EVERYBODY PLEASE!

well, personally i think as a catholic that we DID NOT [no harsh feelings right? just different beliefs] evolve from apes and stuff. i thinks its called the theory of micro evolution..or macro..i dunno which. but what i mean to say is, if we evolved from apes, how come all the other apes and chimpanzeeees havent evolved yet? prime example:my sister.[MAJOR LOL!, KIDDING]
 

cause if we look back at history[and dont get me wrong...SCIENCE IS MY FAVORITE subject ever..loves blackholes stuffs and all] but how did life come upon us? did some little thing just poof out of the sky or what?   *cows falls out of the sky into backyard*   nah i think we had to come from somewhere...i think that dude with lightning bolts in his hand and power in the other...

*more cows fall*
hystericali

I'm enjoying this debate  

however, I do believe in the afterlife! I'd like to think I have such a strong bond with my kids and my home I'd keep popping in to see them.
wildflower

yeah this is a good debate

I have to disagree with the "no ghosts" bit Karen my mum has seen and experienced so many different things that its hard for me not to believe her, i mean, shes my mum, she wouldnt like right? I love anything supernatural, and i really do get into it all,but i dont really believe in the good versus evil part, the demonic stuff, i think that ghosts are just souls that have lost their way and dont realise that theyre dead

Yeah i agree Ali, i believe in the after life too, i find it all fascinating
hystericali

I don't want to believe in the demonic stuff but if a person was a horrible bastard in life, then surely in death and the afterlife?

I believe in the supernatural. I worked in a haunted pub for years and when you see a glass go horizontally from a shelf, go a good two feet away from the shelf and not just smash from dropping, but with force as if thrown, then it kind of makes me wonder and yes, I did question my sanity, but I'll never forget the look on my mums face. The nearest person was probably 5 foot from the glass and no one was on the working side of the bar where it happened.

Too much happened in that pub. The stairs up to the attic made me poo my pants everytime I had to go and cash up in the office, the catch on the cellar door used to rattle when there was only me there (we had one cellar key only) and no matter how much I rationalised nothing can explain the goosebumps and the feeling of knowing someone was there that just happened to be invisible.

Still, you can't beat the time one of the lads was in the cellar bottling up with me, farted and tried to blame it on the paranormal  
Sunburn

hystericali wrote:


I worked in a haunted pub for years and when you see a glass go horizontally from a shelf, go a good two feet away from the shelf and not just smash from dropping..


 Wow, that is scary stuff!
hystericali

this is from the 'paranormaldatabase'

''Coachman

Location: Chesterfield - Sun Inn
Type: Poltergeist
Date / Time: November 1957
Further Comments: During one particular night, bottles were smashed and barrels moved around the locked cellar. The vandalism was blamed on a ghostly coachman whose murdered body was thrown down a well in the cellar during the eighteenth century. The ghost could also be heard walking around the inn.''

I'm looking for more!

edit - there is a book called 'Ghosts in and Around Chesterfield' that featured the pub, but it must have been a local book only, I'm getting nothing on google, and we're going back to the late 80's here!

Sorry Paige for turning your topic from religion to ghosts!
Northern-Star

I watched a great documentary recently about teaching Creationism in American schools, it was a whole court battle etc.(some board members wanted to teach it with Science, others didn't)
It was really interesting as I didn't know(obviously) the whole belief system they use to teach creationism. Being that church and state are separate in America, teaching religion isn't allowed in non religious schools, so this was the religious peoples(I am talking bout a little bit more than your local priest) way of getting religion into school, by disguising it as Science.
It was quite sad really, the debate fractured a whole town and got a lot of people angry. Science teachers of course didn't want to teach this stuff.

Anyway, I still find it hard to believe that in this day and age in Ireland, the church is only being removed from it's HUGE role in setting up and running of Primary School education.
hystericali

Admin confession by Ali  

http://cydonia.myfreeforum.org/about1257.html

please continue this discuusion in the 'religion continued' thread.

I broke the forum again.... I was trying to split our posts about the TV show Most Haunted into a new topic and ballsed it up  

Apologies alround. Locking this topic and going to hide under a rock for a while until I've stopped blushing at my error

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