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 Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: Dan Brown's - The Da Vinci Code |
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We all know that Dan Brown has made some tremendously well selling books however having read many of these books you can find numerous mistakes... The Opeus Dei 'monk' (opeus dei do not have monks). Silas the monk? Hmmm... you'd think that his source which he claims to be an Opeus Dei ex-Numery (a numery is a member at its highest stage) would give him better information than 'monks' exsisting in Opeus Dei?
The Gnostic Gospels (written by Gnositcs) apparently 'willy nilly' removed by Emporer Constantine when in fact the Gnostics themselves were people who were against anything that was made of matter. Being against matter they believed that the only way to salvation was to part with their matter made body and leave to heaven spiritually. They were also sexsist people treating women as an inferior race. So when Dan Brown claims that part of the Gnostic Gospels says that Mary of Magdalene was in fact Christs wife, it makes you think whether or not he is really looking into his evidence well enough.
(i'll write more but i'll let some more people debate first eh?)
There are LOTS more mistakes but i shall leave this as a damn well good start to a debate.. unless no one here has read the book and doesn't give a cow's turd about the Illumanti, New World Order, Free masons, Knights of the Templar or Opeus Dei (all things that come under Dan's Brown's Beliefs and his books.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Dan Brown's - The Da Vinci Code |
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| JulzyBem wrote: | | So when Dan Brown claims that part of the Gnostic Gospels says that Mary of Magdalene was in fact Christs wife, it makes you think whether or not he is really looking into his evidence well enough. |
There is quite a lot of archaic folklore, particularly from France, concerning Jesus' relationship with Mary. Apart from the legends, there's been a cult of so-called 'Black Madonnas' over there for centuries...
Readers of the Da Vinci Code who'd like to learn more about this subject might want to purchase The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail by Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, a far better book (in my view). |
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i agree as well. Brown's book is rather flakey.
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*bumpage* :lol: :lol:
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Dan Brown's Da Vinci is to be taken with a pinch of salt, but yes, it certainly is true that one of the church's main jobs has been to suppress woman-kind, regardless of whether or not some sandal wearing hippy got married in da desert.
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| Quote: | | regardless of whether or not some sandal wearing hippy got married in da desert |
easy on the tone lol.. can be taken to offence you see...
well that statement isn't exactly true. If the church wanted to do that then why did they portray The Virgin Mary in such a high status? She was known to be sacred and blessed among all women.
Also, the church haven't been 'supressing' anything from their followers to woman-kind. The catholic are all for the equality bogus... There have been many good cover ups in the faith but none involving the supression of women.
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| JulzyBem wrote: | | Quote: | | regardless of whether or not some sandal wearing hippy got married in da desert |
easy on the tone lol.. can be taken to offence you see... |
Oh right, cus this place is swarming with Christians. ;-)
| JulzyBem wrote: | well that statement isn't exactly true. If the church wanted to do that then why did they portray The Virgin Mary in such a high status? She was known to be sacred and blessed among all women.
Also, the church haven't been 'supressing' anything from their followers to woman-kind. The catholic are all for the equality bogus... There have been many good cover ups in the faith but none involving the supression of women. |
You've never heard of Original sin? The Maleus Maleficarum?
People say a lot of things, dont mean they mean them.
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lol yes the original sin..
That's basically the early bible teachings.. Genesis i do believe. This doesn't necessarily mean that it was true. Noah's Ark, Creation Story, Garden of Eden.. all aboriginal stories to help answer hard questions.
It wasn't until after Abraham that real events began to take place that were infact historically correct.
oh and btw.. i am catholic  :lol: :lol:
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| JulzyBem wrote: | lol yes the original sin..
That's basically the early bible teachings.. Genesis i do believe. This doesn't necessarily mean that it was true. Noah's Ark, Creation Story, Garden of Eden.. all aboriginal stories to help answer hard questions.
It wasn't until after Abraham that real events began to take place that were infact historically correct.
oh and btw.. i am catholic :lol: :lol: |
Oh, I see. Well, if I may say so, it's funny that you consider yourself Catholic, yet you deny the reality of GOD'S WORD! ;-)
You dont think women have been repressed throughout the ages then, due to religion?
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of course they have but that was reading the words of the bible wrongly. There are ways to interpret things and with the education back then people didn't consider the things we consider now.
Given a few decades we'll probably (as a world) end up looking back saying.. god stupid war people things... that catholic faith encouraged a war in defence... bla bla bla
i think you get my drift.
I'm a catholic but no one said that i wasn't liberal.. i'm a STRONG catholic but.. i have a very different way of thinking to your traditional catholic.. I'm a LOT more open minded in trying to make science and religion coincide beautifully 
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| JulzyBem wrote: | of course they have but that was reading the words of the bible wrongly. There are ways to interpret things and with the education back then people didn't consider the things we consider now.
Given a few decades we'll probably (as a world) end up looking back saying.. god stupid war people things... that catholic faith encouraged a war in defence... bla bla bla
i think you get my drift.
I'm a catholic but no one said that i wasn't liberal.. i'm a STRONG catholic but.. i have a very different way of thinking to your traditional catholic.. I'm a LOT more open minded in trying to make science and religion coincide beautifully |
What parts of The Faith do you retain, in order to call yourself Catholic?
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the liturgical worship The general guidelines and morals.
Everything apart from the beginning of the bible. Even the catholic church now (with a faith movement) believe that the beginning of the bible was mostly interpretation. There were no historical evidence to back this up so you can't blindly say its all true can ya?
I believe in everything apart from the oldest books
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deutoronomy
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