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Oh god, there are'nt any Scientologists on the forum, are there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_f9kyqtLo
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Ichabod Crane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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And of course, the infamous South Park episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Xt4CKgaJA
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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and if there were scientologists on the forum then would it pose you a problem?
Again, we come back to your fondness of freedom of expression and yet you appear to be against a religion that doesn't match your view point
....you feel you can say 'wtf' about Scientology, but what if someone said 'wtf' about some of your comments what would your reaction be?
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Ichabod Crane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ali wrote: | | and if there were scientologists on the forum then would it pose you a problem? |
So long as I was free to voice my opinion about thm, no. And if I was'nt, then I would'nt. So, am I or are'nt I allowed to voice opinions or should I politely leave you in peace? I'd be perfectly happy to.
| ali wrote: | | Again, we come back to your fondness of freedom of expression and yet you appear to be against a religion that doesn't match your view point |
I have nothing against Julz and her free will to believe whatever she wants to.
| ali wrote: | | ....you feel you can say 'wtf' about Scientology, but what if someone said 'wtf' about some of your comments what would your reaction be? |
I'd engage them in conversation.
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Ichabod Crane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway, Scientlogy is a dangerous cult founded by a peadophile.
If you doubt this but would like to know more, I'd reccomend Hubbard's sons book on his experiances with his father and the church.
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Ichabod Crane
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ali wrote: | | Again, we come back to your fondness of freedom of expression and yet you appear to be against a religion that doesn't match your view point |
Thts allowed, is it not? thats why we supposedly have freedom of expression?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I loved that epsisode of South Park 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Ichabod Crane wrote: | | Anyway, Scientlogy is a dangerous cult founded by a peadophile |
Mr C, while many of us would possibly agree with your negative opinion of the Scientology cult, statements such as the ^above^ are not necessarily factual, but rather, personal opinions;that kind of strident standpoint doesn't exactly encourage debate, really, which is effectively what this particular forum is about. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, but it really should be measured, I feel...and your way of expressing certain opinions seems to have upset others, sooooo please try to express your opinions in a less forceful, more refined manner;it's obvious that you have the intelligence to do this, so please match your intelligence with your sensibility. Thanks  |
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| Steve wrote: | | Ichabod Crane wrote: | | Anyway, Scientlogy is a dangerous cult founded by a peadophile |
Mr C, while many of us would possibly agree with your negative opinion of the Scientology cult, statements such as the ^above^ are not necessarily factual, but rather, personal opinions;that kind of strident standpoint doesn't exactly encourage debate, really, which is effectively what this particular forum is about. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, but it really should be measured, I feel...and your way of expressing certain opinions seems to have upset others, sooooo please try to express your opinions in a less forceful, more refined manner;it's obvious that you have the intelligence to do this, so please match your intelligence with your sensibility. Thanks |
Actually, I think it is fact, seeing as his son testifies to bieng raped by him under oath, and the fact that Hubbard lived on yacht at one point, surrounded by boys.
Thats sort of like asking me to not offend Islam by asking me not to recognise that it's Imams are'nt preaching Jihad and punishment of rape with rape in return, but to say that they're actually not to bad and not at all psychotic and actually are just a little pissed becous they have to live in the desert, where Muse never play.
I'm not entirely sure why I rubed ALi the wrong way, but it's not becous I happen to not like Scientology.
But I'll refrain from talking about religion in the future then. 8)
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Ichabod Crane
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Anyway Steve, why do you think freedom of thought/expression should be policed amongst conseting adults? Just curious...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think anyone minds you discussing religion, but rather it's the manner in which you've discussed it recently. I know that none of the staff want to start locking threads, issuing warnings etc etc - being Draconian about this helps nobody.
This isn't Muse.mu, and we really don't want that kind of atmosphere here, so please bear this in mind when you post controversial opinions
While it's true that some might be offended by your way of stating your opinions more than others might be, I'm sure a person of your undoubted talents will find a way of expressing yourself more clearly (and diplomatically) in future. Cheers |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Ichabod Crane wrote: | | Anyway Steve, why do you think freedom of thought/expression should be policed amongst conseting adults? Just curious... |
It's a question of 'right time, right place', m8 - it should be obvious to you that you won't get the kind of 'free-for-all', rough n' tumble debate here that you might get at other forums, so cut your cloth accordingly |
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